So the other Steve is Steve Bannon, who I'm familiar with, 'cause I covered the first Trump White House. He was a close adviser then for some of the administration. INSKEEP: Yeah.

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So the other Steve is Steve Bannon, who I'm familiar with, 'cause I covered the first Trump White House. He was a close adviser then for some of the administration. INSKEEP: Yeah.