Newsom’s press office said on Oct. 14 that “snack-sized" podcast host Joe Rogan is “too scared” to invite the governor on his show.

The voice of UFC is also the host of one of the most popular podcasts in the world, The Joe Rogan Experience. He typically releases several episodes a week and has recorded more than 2,300 episodes to date, hosting a variety of guests including President Donald Trump and Tesla CEO Elon Musk.

Former Vice President Kamala Harris said she regrets not going on Joe Rogan’s podcast during her 2024 presidential campaign and wanted to do it, but contended that there were “games being played.”

"I wanted to do Joe Rogan's show, and there was a lot of games being played, but I wanted to do Joe Rogan's show," Harris said on the "Diary of a CEO" podcast.

Democrat California Gov. Gavin Newsom claimed Monday evening on CNN he’s “moving on” from popular podcast host Joe Rogan, attempting

"There was a lot of games being played around the scheduling and it didn't happen," the Democratic candidate said in a new interview

Jon Stewart defended Joe Rogan for having on, what The New Yorker's David Remnick called, "Nazi curious guests," saying he can talk to anyone he likes and that it falls on others to call out mistakes